In before "it will have AWD, a turbo, 400 hp"

 

Since the tC is getting sunset, I don't see it getting another redesign.

 

What makes you think its being put out to pasture?

 

that's a fact.

tC sales have declined since FR-S release (which doesn't make THAT much sense,really. completely different cars), and the new coupe / sedan is coming up this Fall.

 

I personally ( just my thoughts here) think that the 2nd Gen looked way more everyday daily driver\camry-ish ... and the younger "tuner" crowd simply lost interest with other more sporty, more advanced cars available to fit that niche. I think they did fine on the first gen. As much as some whiners or fan boys of other brands complained, when the 1st gen came out it performed very well for a car in its market. The 2nd gen got a tad more power, more weight, felt and looked bigger and really looked less sporty. So I dont doubt the sales declined. If you are going to play in the "young" market, you have to change things up more than that, and in the right direction. I would be surprised to see a 3rd gen for sure. With cars like the Fiesta ST, Focus ST, etc they need something way different to compete with that crowd. Ford REALLY nailed it on those cars, and even more so if you see what they both can do on an autox course. Toyota needs another FWD like one of those, otherwise the majority of the Scion market will be all yawns and will focus on the FRS.

While the FRS is completely different, the price point I can see would make it steal away people looking at a new tC. Its more, but not drastically, and used ones are available now. For about $6k more than a new tC you can have an FRS. Or for the same price if you buy one a year or so old. Would be a no brainer for me if those were my choices, even if I had to drive it in the winter.

 

Redesign

The tC isn't being discontinued, it's been one of Scion's best selling cars. However, it's unclear at this point if the redesign will be for the 2016 or 2017 MY. The first generation tC lasted 7 years; 2016 will the 7th year of production for this generation.

But it's not being discontinued.

 

The tC isn't being discontinued, it's been one of Scion's best selling cars. However, it's unclear at this point if the redesign will be for the 2016 or 2017 MY. The first generation tC lasted 7 years; 2016 will the 7th year of production for this generation.

But it's not being discontinued.

Oh really? Do tell me more!

Scion reps seem to have wrong info, I'd love to correct them

 

Do you have information to cite to support that?

They sold a dismal 17,000 tC's last year in the US. Being the best selling scion does not mean much with numbers that low. The FRS is having similar issues in the US, but I think is selling better world wide and I think sells in more markets than the tC still.

I still think they went the wrong way with the redesign for sure. Instead of making it more edgy and sporty they made it more Camry. If they dont fix that it will either go on selling ok (but mainly to people wanting a normal grocery getter) or will die off. But, since they actually went out and made a proper RWD sporty car that was affordable, its hard to see why they would dump too much time into making big changes to the tC. If they made it another Focus ST then it would be great, but would have to be better than that car to really survive that market.

Dont get me wrong, I would love to see the tC go on (although hopefully in a more exciting form) but it just seems they have moved it to their "meh" category instead of really putting a lot of time into making it something unique.

 

tC discontinued - nah

Here's a link to one article I've read on this, the last paragraph mentions the tC. I've seen the same information quoted by other reputable sources, if I can find them I'll post them:

Scion's Next Model Will be a Toyota, Won't be a Crossover » AutoGuide.com News

 

tC reboot

Here's an article from last year that quotes Murtha as saying that the tC will be redesigned for 2016:

http://www.autonews.com/article/20140728/OEM04/307289977/scions-entry-level-reload-means-big-changes

 

Oops, article link doesn't work

Here's the Automotive News article from July 2014:

After a year of studying the possibility of turning Scion into a near-luxury brand that would slot underneath Lexus and compete against the German entry-luxury products, Toyota has decided to keep it as a starter brand with a product lineup tailored to young shoppers.

That lineup won't be exclusively cheap -- the $25,000-plus FR-S coupe will stay another generation, executives say -- but the emphasis will be on first-time new-car buyers.

With the xB and xD heading well into the seventh year of their cycles, expect big lineup changes starting early next year. Also, expect new nomenclature, as Toyota has filed trademark applications for iA, iD, iM, tD, tK, tR, tS and tZ. That doesn't necessarily mean the lineup will expand to eight vehicles, because Toyota often over-files its trademark apps.

Here is what to expect from the Scion camp in the near term.

xB: Scion's signature box car will go away in spring 2015 when it is replaced by a version of the Europe-market Toyota Auris hatchback, based on the Corolla platform but equipped with a sharp-handling double-wishbone rear suspension. Expect the U.S. version to get something zippier than the Auris' 1.8-liter 136-hp four-banger, which has a poky 11-second 0-to-60 time. The nameplate may be changed.

xD: The Yaris-based hatchback is likely to be killed in mid-2015 when Scion gets a sedan derivative of the Mazda2 from Mazda's Salamanca, Mexico, plant. Sources say the Scion may carry the 1.5-liter Mazda Skyactiv engine, but without any Mazda markings. It should arrive by summer 2015. The nameplate may be changed.

tC: The sport coupe's redesign arrived in summer 2010. Expect special trim-package editions but few other changes until a redesign in early 2016.

FR-S: Launched in spring 2012. Although rumors in the Australian press claim the rear-wheel-drive coupe is a one-and-done deal, executives at Toyota and Subaru -- which co-developed the FR-S and its sibling, the Subaru BRZ -- insist there will be a next-generation vehicle. Expect it to arrive in spring 2017.

Crossover: Toyota is studying a low-slung Scion crossover, smaller than a RAV4, and running off a modified Corolla/Auris platform in all-wheel-drive setup. It would arrive in 2016 or 2017.

iQ: The minicar has fallen well short of expectations. Expect euthanasia by the end of 2014.

You can reach Mark Rechtin at mrechtin@crain.com

 

We'll see what the year '17 brings.
I really hope you're right, I'd love to do some tC ad work.

 

aaand I got a confirmation that late '16 is the last year for the tC. Again, according to a Scion corporate rep, and Scion lead.

 

Well that sucks if true!.. I was hoping for a redesign for 2016, as I really like the 2015, but was hoping to get a look at how the potential 2016 redesign would look to make a buying decision.


rats!

 

Ugh, well that would be too bad if they stopped making it. It's been a decent seller. According to GOOD CAR BAD CAR the tC has consistently outsold the Volkswagen GTI for the last 5 years.