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Hi all~

I just wnder why Camry's MPG is better than tC.

tC and Camry have same engine and Camry is 259lbs. heavier than tC.

But Camry's MPG is better than tC.

Anybody know why?

tC

2.4-liter DOHC 16-valve VVT-i 4-cylinder
160 [email protected] rpm
163 [email protected] rpm

Curb Weight (lbs.) 2,905/2,970 (manual/automatic)

MPG
Manual 22/29
Automatic 23/30


Camry(SE)

2.4-liter DOHC 16-valve VVT-i 4-cylinder
160 [email protected] rpm
163 [email protected] rpm

Curb Weight (lbs.) 3164/3219 (manual/automatic)

MPG
Manual 24/33
Automatic 24/34
 

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I'd say gearing (for manual), and less aggressive shiftpoints (for auto). and 34/34 is just a typo.
 

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oops! I just mistyped. 24/34 is correct
Camry's MPG is 4 better than tC
 

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it's definitely in the gearing of both transmissions, manual especially, just like Zoltiz said. Shorter gearing = less gas mileage but more zoom zoom as Labfish put. Just to summarize two good points.
 

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im not physisist but id have to lean towards no. camry's and solaras are most likely windtunnel tested to be sure they maitain good fuel economy and their design tinkered with if chages were needed. im sure the tc had this done, but the design was more important then the fuel economy. it has a flat front end which doesnt exhibit as good aerodynamics but probably good for cooling the engine. tires, wheel size also play factors as do moonroof usage and continuous airflow over the entire car. who knows but im pretty sure the camry solara was better designed for gas mileage then our tc's.
 

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Tires, gearing, frontal area.

They have the same Coefficient of drag, so it's not that. They have the same engine, so it's unlikely that. Tires are different, frontal area is different, and final drive gearing is different by 7.4%. So between tires and gearing we probably have a 10% difference in rated efficiency.
 

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Originally posted by lil_LEX_24O@Nov 5 2004, 07:22 PM
WHO CARES WHY THE MPG IS BETTER, THE TC IS COOLER

CAN I GET AN AMEN?
AMEN! I'm with you on that one!

My friend has an XRS... There's only 3 aspects, IMHO, that are better than the tC:

1. 6th speed
2. Better gas mileage
3. Sportier suspension

I'd still take the tC any day... I prefer the looks, the interior, the wheels, the torquier engine, and I'll be modifying the suspension shortly -- so I'll probably like that better, too.

-K
 

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Originally posted by Labfish@Nov 5 2004, 10:44 PM
Can I get a little less use of the caps lock key??
Amen!
 

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Originally posted by inave@Nov 2 2004, 07:55 AM
tC

2.4-liter DOHC 16-valve VVT-i 4-cylinder
160 [email protected] rpm
163 [email protected] rpm

Curb Weight (lbs.) 2,905/2,970 (manual/automatic)

MPG
Manual 22/29
Automatic 23/30


Camry(SE)

2.4-liter DOHC 16-valve VVT-i 4-cylinder
160 [email protected] rpm
163 [email protected] rpm

Curb Weight (lbs.) 3164/3219 (manual/automatic)

MPG
Manual 24/33
Automatic 24/34
um i was just wondering... how do the manuals have less mpg for highway...

i thot manuals were better on milage... esp for highways
 

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That all depends on gear ratios. The auto is geared for better mileage.
 

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Originally posted by p120ud213azn+Feb 21 2005, 10:13 PM-->QUOTE (p120ud213azn @ Feb 21 2005, 10:13 PM)
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@Nov 2 2004, 07:55 AM


tC

2.4-liter DOHC 16-valve VVT-i 4-cylinder
160 [email protected] rpm
163 [email protected] rpm

Curb Weight (lbs.)  2,905/2,970 (manual/automatic) 

MPG
Manual  22/29 
Automatic  23/30 


Camry(SE)

2.4-liter DOHC 16-valve VVT-i 4-cylinder
160 [email protected] rpm
163 [email protected] rpm

Curb Weight (lbs.)  3164/3219 (manual/automatic) 

MPG
Manual  24/33 
Automatic  24/34
um i was just wondering... how do the manuals have less mpg for highway...

i thot manuals were better on milage... esp for highways [/b]
automatic has different gear ratios and a lockup torque converter
 

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I wish the manual had better MPG than the auto like most cars... because I was going to use that as one of my reasons to convince my parents why I should get a manual instead of an auto
 
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