marty, you obviously dont know what you are talking about. my mother runs the optional .45 Kimber. given muzzle velocity vs. the strafing speed of your father, it is mathematically impossible for your father to dodge a bullet from my mother's kimber. now, considering your father may be running the optional Kevlar vest, a second chance is possible for him, however, the added bulk and weight of a Kevlar vest will also decrease his speed and agility, leaving him more open to a head shot. therefore, you are a moron if you think your dad can beat up my mom. you need to study up on your basic gun-judo theories before you come on here trying to make me look like an idiot. you obviously have no idea who i am.