[chineseboieee]

I'm just playing with everyone. Truth is the stock suspension is actually one of the best i've ever seen. I was going at 110mph on the freeway with everything totally stock and hanging those turns like nothing. Very smooth and power kicks in quick. I rather keep my stock suspensions than upgrading. I rather have the smooth power and handling than to have to worry about my front end slamming the ground. What do you guys think?

 

[hamster]

i like my TRD springs

 

[lo bux racer]

I like my setup way better than stock. Very few cars can keep up around a corner.

 

[greg091]

i have the trd springs and hotckis strut bar...i love how the tc handles with just these two upgrades i feel i can out handle a lot of cars out there...i was thinking sometime down the rd doing a full trd suspension swap...along with some 245's ...i think that'll do me good

 

[Obike]

Originally posted by lo bux racer@Sep 22 2005, 02:01 AM
I like my setup way better than stock. Very few cars can keep up around a corner.

When you come for the "Buy Marty A Drink" caravan, we'll have to hit up some of the N. GA roads.

 

[Ryan'stc]

This is the part where we hear the banjo right. "Where you going city boy"? lol jk

 

[mrbrace]

I am putting TRDs on this weekend on my new tc and installing my rims and tires 2 weeks from this weekend and I guarantee that it will ride wonderfully...oh yeah and I am getting 245 tires

 

[Ryan'stc]

Congrats on your 245 convert. I promise you will be shocked at how it handels after that.

 

[oSKiDSo]

lo bux - What kind of suspension setup do you have?

 

[wolo]

Lance is rolling on Teins.

 

[lo bux racer]

Tein SS-Ps and Hotchkis sways with 245/40/17s on 17 x 8.5 rims. Without fabricating pieces for the suspension, it just doesn't get any better.

 

[EddNog]

Originally posted by lo bux racer@Sep 22 2005, 09:47 AM
Tein SS-Ps and Hotchkis sways with 245/40/17s on 17 x 8.5 rims. Without fabricating pieces for the suspension, it just doesn't get any better.

Hey Lance, did you ever consider the EDFC kit?

-Ed

 

[Ryan'stc]

Hey Lance how much was the Tein and how much tuning did it require?

 

[lo bux racer]

Eddnog: No, the EFDC is for guys who have a need to change damping on the fly. I've never had that need and don't want to add weight to any already heaviest in class vehicle.

Ryan: I paid $1195 shipped. Tuning was minimal except you have to get an alignment, and you need someone with a clue to do it. Fortunately you are in the Sacramento Metropasture, so I know where you need to take your car, but the alignment will be another $75. Actually adjusting the things for an acceptable ride and good handling is as easy as following Tein's recommendations.

 

[CraniumDesigns]

whats so good about 245's? how does having bigger tires help? im not arguing, just wondering why it makes a diff.

 

[Azrael]

Wider tires = bigger contact surface = more traction = better handling.

 

[CraniumDesigns]

neato! thanks.

wait, so are they wider in diameter or like from a front view?

 

[Ryan'stc]

front view. You want more tire touching the ground. This is called a contact patch.

 

[GA tC]

Originally posted by Azrael@Sep 22 2005, 02:25 PM
Wider tires = bigger contact surface = more traction = better handling.

Ok, let's play devil's advocate here. If I get a taller tire, that means that there will be more flex in the sidewall. This should be a good thing as it means that what rubber there is contacting the ground will want to stay in contact with the ground. My guess is that less contact surface is less friction, which, if all things are equal, means faster.

Believe me, I am not arguing. Just trying to figure out which way is up!

 

[lo bux racer]

It's a balancing act. Yes, a taller sidewall will have better compliance with the road surface, but the shorter sidewall will have less slip angle and will feel better connected to the road surface. Sidewall height also affects the operating temperature of the tread rubber. More flex = more heat, so the rubber compounds are going to be harder for durability with a taller sidewall.

There is more to know about tires than anyone here wants to hear about. There's a seminar for motorsports participants being put on by SAE and they have an entire day session to talk about nothing but tires for motorsports and how to use them. Then they have another entire day about tuning your suspension to work with the tires available for your series.

Check it out!