Originally posted by Ivben Blown+Sep 25 2004, 02:18 PM-->QUOTE (Ivben Blown @ Sep 25 2004, 02:18 PM)
@Sep 25 2004, 09:23 AM
it ONLY goes off if the doors are opened from inside if they have already been locked remotely. you heard me right. the dealer demoed it for me after i had already purchased it.
Sorry amigo, that's just not true! The dealer that installed/demo-ed yours must have been a dipshit. The Scion security has a glass break sensor, yours was either adjusted wrong or installed wrong. I can turn the sensitivity on mine so that a loud passing car or harley will set it off, a tap with the key on the window will EASILY set it off. As far as arming, it can be armed with the remote, the door "lock" switch, and it can be programmed to auto arm itself.
C'mon people, adjusting the sensitivity is so easy to do why have the dealer hacks do it?? If there's one thing that seems to show up time and time again on these forums, it's that the dealers mostly have their heads up their bung holes. Their job is to get you in and out as quickly as possible at the lowest possible cost. Most of these service guys are just waiting for the day to end, they don't give a rat's ass about your car.. Your dealer/service guy obviously knew nothing about the security system. The factory alarms work as advertised, the dealers are the ones who fail to get it to perform. [/rant]
The aftermarket units definately have more features than the Scion unit, but after installing the Scion unit myself I can say that it blends seamlessly with the factory keyless remote and factory wiring. Most of the better alarms require you to carry another key fob transmitter/reciever, something else to add to your keychain. I've seen the kind of work that installers like the big-box stores can do, they can really hack up the stock wiring, and you end up with dozens of rattles after a couple of months. Neither alarm would have prevented someone from braking your window, if the factory unit had been adjusted properly it would have behaved just like the aftermarket (except for a remote pager)
For those of you who have (or were "stuck") with the Scion alarm, it's not as bad as some would have you believe. Deposited my $.02 [/b]