i would also like to know this? anybody know how low the drop is with hotchkis? how bout spring rates or sway bar diameters?
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I having been looking into lowering my tC and installing a sway bar. But I was wondering, should i get the Hotchkis Stage 1 TVS with front and rear sway bars and lowering springs. Or, if i should get the TRD lowring springs and rear sway bar. Which is the better product? I would appreciate any input.
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the hotchkis lower the car 1.7 F and 1.97 R. i would suggest getting the TRD package instead because you don't really need the front sway bar. i had a chance lift the whole car up in a shop and got a chance to look at the front sway bar. and im telling you, if you get the hotchkis package, you're gonna have fffuuunnn trying to install the front one. so go with the TRD unless you like the lower drop of hotchkis. personnally i think the 1.25 drop from TRD springs is useless.
yet i love my TRD drop with my 18's. and i love my TRD rear sway. but if i had it to do over again, i would keep my springs and swap to the hotchkis sway bar set.
edit : in fact, i still plan on it. anyone want to buy a TRD rear sway?
edit : in fact, i still plan on it. anyone want to buy a TRD rear sway?
im interested how much? pm me
The Hotchkis parts will void my warranty though, correct?
I don't believe they will. The dealership would have to show that the parts you installed caused whatever problems you have.
But, lets have Damon chime in the speak from the dealer's POV.
But, lets have Damon chime in the speak from the dealer's POV.
There is really no such thing as a part voiding your warranty, per se. If you have a suspension-related issue down the road, it is likely that a dealer would blame the non-factory springs. Unless the problem was one that was totally inconsistent with being caused by a change in the springs, you'd have a rought time convincing the dealer otherwise.
That's worst-case, but not at all unlikely.
Damon?
That's worst-case, but not at all unlikely.
Damon?
Who is Damon?
or a system process in unix/linux/os x systems.
No, that would be a daemon.
i am a damon. and marty has it 100% right. as long as an installed item cannot be determined to be the cause of a warrantied part failing, you are okay with warranty. i have a customer with bags on his xB and it lays frame. still under warranty.Originally posted by basilisk4@Feb 20 2005, 04:58 PM
There is really no such thing as a part voiding your warranty, per se. If you have a suspension-related issue down the road, it is likely that a dealer would blame the non-factory springs. Unless the problem was one that was totally inconsistent with being caused by a change in the springs, you'd have a rought time convincing the dealer otherwise.
That's worst-case, but not at all unlikely.
Damon?
http://www.trdsparks.com/displayparts.php?...11&parts_id=589Originally posted by ZEROmotorsports@Feb 19 2005, 01:34 PM
i would also like to know this? anybody know how low the drop is with hotchkis? how bout spring rates or sway bar diameters?
Here is a bit of info from my site on the Hotchkis sways.
Ken
Agreed! Totally Correct. A Dealer cannot just say you have no warranty because of a part being added to your car. They have to prove that the part or the install 'caused' the problem.Originally posted by inevitablegod+Feb 24 2005, 05:30 PM-->QUOTE (inevitablegod @ Feb 24 2005, 05:30 PM)<!--QuoteBegin-basilisk4i am a damon. and marty has it 100% right. as long as an installed item cannot be determined to be the cause of a warrantied part failing, you are okay with warranty. i have a customer with bags on his xB and it lays frame. still under warranty. [/b]@Feb 20 2005, 04:58 PM
There is really no such thing as a part voiding your warranty, per se. If you have a suspension-related issue down the road, it is likely that a dealer would blame the non-factory springs. Unless the problem was one that was totally inconsistent with being caused by a change in the springs, you'd have a rought time convincing the dealer otherwise.
That's worst-case, but not at all unlikely.
Damon?
Ken
Reading this sounds like its ok to install your own stuff then as long as it isnt the cause of a problem down the line the dealer wont care who installed it?
I thought that to get an intake or aanything on the car would not void the warranty if it was installed by a mechanic, is that true? Cuz I want to install my stuff if not
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I thought that to get an intake or aanything on the car would not void the warranty if it was installed by a mechanic, is that true? Cuz I want to install my stuff if not
I know this is an old thread, but there was a little something i wanted to clarify. saththu555 says that if you get the TRD package, then the front sway bar is useless. However, ineveiteablegod wants to keep the TRD springs, but have the hotchkis set in order to have that front sway bar. Any reason for this? Also, would having the TRD shocks instead of the stock shocks improve the handling/and/or ride comfort within that package? Thanks in advance.
First of all, nobody will fault you for bringing up old threads. It is better to keep lots of information in a single related thread than have thousands of related threads with bits of information in each one.Originally posted by boricua82@Apr 10 2006, 06:48 PM
I know this is an old thread, but there was a little something i wanted to clarify. saththu555 says that if you get the TRD package, then the front sway bar is useless. However, ineveiteablegod wants to keep the TRD springs, but have the hotchkis set in order to have that front sway bar. Any reason for this? Also, would having the TRD shocks instead of the stock shocks improve the handling/and/or ride comfort within that package? Thanks in advance.
With that said, I would disregard sathuthu555's post.
The TRD rear sway is a decent piece, but designed to be used in conjunction with the factory front sway. The Hotchkis set is stiffer and intended to be used as a set. From what I understand the front sway install is tricky, but for what its worth Hotchkis will be getting my money this payday. (ie, I'll be buying hte hotchkis set for my car.)
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