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anybody? i know escort and valentine are big brands but i want to know which is best, if there are any better, and people experiences with any of these systems...

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i looked didn't find much
 

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They are all a waste of money. Valentine One is a bigger waste of money. None of them work well in urban (or even suburban) areas, all produce frequent false positives, and all are subject to the inherent limitations of radar detection, which basically dictate that you are generally already caught before you have time to react. Also, many departments are moving to laser for speed detection, and laser detection is typically completely worthless, and the reputable manufacturers will even tell you as much.

Having tried both ways, I would recommend watching for cops over spending hundreds on a radar detector. With the false sense of security that people tend to get from having a radar detector, combined with the fact that it's only human nature for a cop not to want to cut you a break when he comes up to your window and sees that radar detector on your dash (or the tell-tale suction cup rings on your windshield), I think you may actually be more likely to get a ticket with a radar detector than without. Just my two cents' worth.
 

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I love having a radar detector. I have a cheap $50 Cobra from Circuit City... It's right in the front of my dashboard against the windshield, and it's only really stuck there with some duct tape so there aren't any marks.

It works ok... I don't speed (very much - 15 over max, but usually keep it 5-10 over), and I keep a sharp eye out. I do get false hits from automatic doors and the like, but if you generally know the area where you're driving, you know where to expect them. It has saved me from a couple tickets - I get hits on the highway and slow down, then I can usually see the cop. The only thing you gotta be careful with is Laser speed guns...
 

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I have the Beltronics Vector 995. Well worth the money and it filters out false alarms on almost all signals...even in town. It can be updated (I think you have to send it in) and it shoots forward and backward. A little pricey when I bought it last year at around $300.
Saved me on open highway many times...usually 3/4 to 1 mile or farther away.

As far as the false signals go....if you drive the same route all of the time you learn where the false signals are. Not perfect as a cop could hide in the "cover" and still bust you but at least you recognize where there are not the false signals!

The cops also can be moving and get you...oncoming or from behind. I have seen them head on and turn around to bust people. (of course I knew they were there from the alarm I was getting)

I call it a must have


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I don't know the tech behind it but my thought is that it probably measures the intensity and exact wavelength/pulse of the signal and can interpret the real from the fake.


(that might be complete bs but that is how I earned my nickname)
 

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You guys inadvertently helped prove my point:

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I do get false hits from automatic doors and the like, but if you generally know the area where you're driving, you know where to expect them.[/b]
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if you drive the same route all of the time you learn where the false signals are.
Kind of like how if you drive through the same area a lot, you learn where the cops sit? There are two problems with the false positives. First, people tend to start ignoring their radar detector because of the false positives, especially in places where they know that they typically get false hits every time. That brings me to the second problem, which is the fact that cops sometimes will purposely sit in an area where they know there will be false hits.

As for cops coming towards you, yes they can clock you, but a radar detector still isn't necessarily going to be very helpful. For one thing, police officers often drive around with their dash-mounted radar gun on all the time, which creates -- you guessed it -- more false positives.

I suppose that radar detectors are probably more useful to people who live in flat states. Here in Georgia, where there are hills EVERYWHERE, radar detectors are pretty silly. Even out in the country, the radar detector won't pick up the signal until you crest a hill, at which point it's probably too late.
 

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Yes...where I live it is mostly flat. I have been able to drive down hilly country roads having fun with not a person in sight for 40 miles....and get a signal.
Then after slowing and going over a few hills there was a state trooper just after the crest of a hill waiting for the next victim.
I was informed well in advance. Had I received a ticket for that ride I would have spent enough to be able to buy another radar detector!

At least I saved myself from something on my record. That is where the insurance company gets you.

Um....I do not condone driving at speed. I just do it.
 

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yes radar jammers are illegal.. most cops can tell if they are being jammed on their radar gun units.. you get caught, welcome to some trouble..

now laser jammers do not fall under the FCC jurisdiction, because they are labelled as a medical device.. which falls under the FDA's jurisdiction.. and laser jammers are not illegal, not on the federal level.. some states (forget which ones, sorry) have adopted laws that make it illegal..
 

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and for which detector to get, i am with einstein on this one.. a Bel 995 or any of the top Bel models would be great..

Just to let you know escort brand bought out Bel a couple years ago, so that's why they both score similarly.. for me i like the Bel, my unit has picked up a cop about 5 miles up the road.. and other times alerted me to laser where I never expected it to be..

Sure I agree to keep aware and looking but sometimes that's just not enough.. a good detector like a Bel would help you out a lot, you still have to use your good judgement..
 
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