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This is basically a simple racing technique question for everyone. I know on a rear wheel drive car that sometimes when going around a corner, letting off the gas will cause oversteer and all, or maybe I'm on drugs, who knows. But none the less, when trying to fly around a corner (go really fast, not float, obviously), should I stay on the gas, or should I let off the gas, or let up on the gas some? Which is better to do? And Obviously, what is the reasons?
 

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1) Straight line brake (meaning only brake while moving straight)
2) Take the turn as high in the lane as possible..
3) Once you hit the apex, accelerate
4) As you complete the turn.. go as low into into the new lane as possible (less stress on the tires so you dont lose traction as much)
 

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Direct answer: stay on the gas. Lifting is like braking. Very bad. Accelerating is better than lifting, but may not be the best thing. What you are doing with the gas is balancing the weight distribution between front and rear, so you need to find the balance point and keep the throttle where the car is as balanced as the set up will let you.

The two worst things you can do in a turn:

1. Brake.

2. Lift off the throttle.

Both will cause you to run wide on the exit and make you think you are going as fast as you can when in fact you are going very slowly, and somebody really fast is going to teach you a hard lesson when they literally drive around you in that turn. AMHIK.

Too bad you don't live in Sac. Today the roads are wet, it's a perfect day to demonstrate the difference.
 

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Lets say though I am already going a little fast for the corner (or so my mind thinks) but somehow it seems as if it is ok but I can't go any faster... Do I stay on the gas just to maintain, do I accelerate, or what? Thanks for your input guys... That was a quick response...
 

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That's the fundamental problem. It's pretty unlikely you really know what too fast is, but you think it's too fast. First, stay off the brakes. Second stay steady on the gas or accelerate very slightly. The only way you know for sure you are going too fast is if the front or rear of the car is already sliding. If all four wheels are sliding, then yea, verily you are at the limits, and even then, you stay the course. Upsetting the balance of the car with a throttle change or braking is the worst thing you can do, and guaranteed to send you touring the tulips.

This is all stuff you can play with in a big parking lot on a rainy or snowy day. The wet/snow only makes the car slide easier so you don't have to go as fast to get the same education.

One of the hard lessons about handling difficult situations is it always happens the same way pretty much regardless of speed. If you learn at low speed, the risk of something really bad happening (like rolling the car) is a lot smaller. That's why driving schools put you on a skidpad, wet it down, and have you practice car control at speeds that will not result in extreme danger.

Once you have the recovery techniques down and feel comfortable with the car sliding around, then you can go out onto the dry pavement and practice the same stuff with confidence that you'll be able to do the right thing. The speed will be a lot higher, but the skills you need to retain and regain control have already been polished under controlled conditions so you do the right thing more as a reflex, not as a conscious thought process.

For example, motorcycle road racers have to learn what it feels like to lock up the front wheel under braking. It's the only way to know where the true threshold is, and the only way to learn what to do when it happens. So you practice locking up the front brake at low speeds (15 -20 mph), learn to release the brake, straighten the bars, and grab the brake again in less than 0.7 seconds. If it takes longer than that, you fall down. Guaranteed.

So you learn this skill, and when you accidentally lock the wheel at 90 mph going around some slowpoke going into turn 3 at Sears Point, you already know what to do, it happens with exactly the same timing as it does at 15 mph, and you recover, brake successfully into the turn and drive around slowpoke without incident.
 

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Originally posted by lo bux racer@Jan 11 2006, 12:49 PM
Direct answer: stay on the gas. Lifting is like braking. Very bad. Accelerating is better than lifting, but may not be the best thing. What you are doing with the gas is balancing the weight distribution between front and rear, so you need to find the balance point and keep the throttle where the car is as balanced as the set up will let you.

The two worst things you can do in a turn:

1. Brake.

2. Lift off the throttle.

Both will cause you to run wide on the exit and make you think you are going as fast as you can when in fact you are going very slowly, and somebody really fast is going to teach you a hard lesson when they literally drive around you in that turn. AMHIK.

Too bad you don't live in Sac. Today the roads are wet, it's a perfect day to demonstrate the difference.
i wanna demonstration!
 

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but im actually here and have driven with him, im just trying to milk a ride in the SOOOP-rah
 

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Lance ... write a book.
I'd think that it would sell. Call it "A Practical Approach to Impractical Driving." I'd buy it to catch anything that I missed during my teen years of high speed driving.
 

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Originally posted by lo bux racer@Jan 11 2006, 12:49 PM
Both will cause you to run wide on the exit and make you think you are going as fast as you can when in fact you are going very slowly, and somebody really fast is going to teach you a hard lesson when they literally drive around you in that turn. AMHIK.
Sounds like someone remembers the last time we went go-karting...
 

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Hahahaahahahah aha ha ha. sorry. that just made me laugh hard.
 

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Originally posted by lo bux racer@Jan 11 2006, 03:49 PM
The two worst things you can do in a turn:

1. Brake.

2. Lift off the throttle.
I can definitely sign under these things. Have personal experience with the second point and doing a 270 degree spin on a mountain road exiting a turn.
 
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