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well i got some new tires today (falkken azenis rt-615) but i decided to go wide. it was said that it couldnt be done before without issues from people who speculate everything and believe nothing. well i put on a good set of 245/45/R17. NO rubbing what so ever. now its CLOSE but even after doing some full left and right turns, going down high ramps (out of gas stations around here) and pretty much and other driving situation, they hold up perfectly, and look MEAN! just wanted to share. oh by the way, there on stock rims.
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Originally posted by JDangle@Jan 16 2006, 05:42 PM
well i got some new tires today (falkken azenis rt-615) but i decided to go wide. it was said that it couldnt be done before without issues from people who speculate everything and believe nothing. well i put on a good set of 245/45/R17. NO rubbing what so ever. now its CLOSE but even after doing some full left and right turns, going down high ramps (out of gas stations around here) and pretty much and other driving situation, they hold up perfectly, and look MEAN! just wanted to share. oh by the way, there on stock rims.
Nobody said you can't fit 245s on the stock wheels--you just won't get the maximum potential out of them like you would with 8.0 to 9.0" wheels.

If you like how it is now, you should see what it's like when the tires have proper lateral support!

-Ed

EDIT: PS--Case in point, when Subaru made the minor updates to the Impreza WRX STi the second year it was available here in the U.S., one of the changes was widening the wheels a half inch, because they found that handling improved sufficiently from the increased lateral support to warrant the part change (adding new parts to the catalogue entails costly logistics).
You made a very bad choice. Those tires on 7" rims are dangerous to yourself and others. No tire manufacturer would recommend that combination for good reason. You'll find out why...
Originally posted by lo bux racer@Jan 16 2006, 05:55 PM
You made a very bad choice. Those tires on 7" rims are dangerous to yourself and others. No tire manufacturer would recommend that combination for good reason. You'll find out why...
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ummmmmmm ACTUALLY, it says to mount on a 7" rim. so it is the right size. thank you pull thru
Originally posted by JDangle@Jan 16 2006, 06:01 PM
ummmmmmm ACTUALLY, it says to mount on a 7" rim. so it is the right size. thank you pull thru
What is this, "it," that you speak of?

Btw, 245/45-17 will reduce your acceleration but also cut down on revving at high speed and slightly improve fuel mileage, because the outer diameter is larger than stock; the closest-to-stock diameter goes to 245/40-17.

-Ed
It? who's "it"?
Originally posted by krdshrk@Jan 16 2006, 06:10 PM
It? who's "it"?
"IT" is the short hairy guy on The Munsters. "Cousin It"
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This guy told you that it'd work?!
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your mom.
Oh, wait, I just reread what you wrote. 245/45/17. So your tire is just plain too big period. Hasn't rubbed. Yet. That tire is more than an inch larger in diameter than the stock wheel/tire combination and is nearly 5% off of stock size. So your odometer, speedometer, and gearing are all going to be off. Not to mention your car is sitting an extra half inch in the air.

Brilliant plan.

Oh, BTW, 7" is still not the recommended width for a 245/45/17. Minimum width for that tire is still 7.5, recommended is 8.0, maximum is 9.0. That's what Toyo, Pirelli, Yokohama, Fuzion, Bridgestone, and Goodyear all say. I seriously doubt Falken lost their minds and recommended a narrower rim.
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Originally posted by krdshrk@Jan 16 2006, 06:16 PM


This guy told you that it'd work?!
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i just realized what i typed, it was a 235/45/17 not a 245. my bad. now i feel like a douche. and by saying "it" i was refeering to the sticker on the tire, the manufacures sticker. it reccommended to fit it to a 7" rim. acceleration is just as good, and my speedo seems to be ok "read 35 on state st right beside another car(speed limit is 35)" but yea ita a 235 NOT a 245. i mistyped the first posting.
Originally posted by lo bux racer@Jan 16 2006, 06:23 PM
Oh, wait, I just reread what you wrote. 245/45/17. So your tire is just plain too big period. Hasn't rubbed. Yet. That tire is more than an inch larger in diameter than the stock wheel/tire combination and is nearly 5% off of stock size. So your odometer, speedometer, and gearing are all going to be off. Not to mention your car is sitting an extra half inch in the air.

Brilliant plan.

Oh, BTW, 7" is still not the recommended width for a 245/45/17. Minimum width for that tire is still 7.5, recommended is 8.0, maximum is 9.0. That's what Toyo, Pirelli, Yokohama, Fuzion, Bridgestone, and Goodyear all say. I seriously doubt Falken lost their minds and recommended a narrower rim.
you make me laugh. Lance seems to know everything.
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That's still really wide. The tire bible says if your Speedo is reading 70, you're actually goin 72.

That plus, 235/45R17's are for 17x8s to 17x9.5s according to the tire bible
i think he might have realized he made a mistake... Probally something i would do if i didnt have this forum to get information from. (thanks ystc.com!)
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Originally posted by krdshrk@Jan 16 2006, 07:15 PM
That's still really wide. The tire bible says if your Speedo is reading 70, you're actually goin 72.

That plus, 235/45R17's are for 17x8s to 17x9.5s according to the tire bible
awesome link... thanks
I got it from Inevitable
pics, I want pics of these tires... Oh yeah and I agree mounting a wide low profile tire on a narrow rim is not a good idea.. I only run a 235 tire on a 7 inch rim, if the sidewall percentage is above 50%....

my $0.02....
Rob
According to this website:

falkin RT-615 specs

They do not even make a 235/45/17, just 225/45/17 or 235/40/17.

Never the less, even a 225 is to wide for a 7" wheel.

Rick
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