ok so yesterday up here in NJ we got about 4 inches of snow altogether. The forecast called for rain so i said what the hell ill take my tC in to work. well i made it there no problem since it was raining at the time, but my trip back was another story. I made it the 30 miles back fearing for my life, spinning out was the story of my drive home. So anyway i get to my road My road is a nice little hill so its a bitch to get up and a bitch trying to now slide down the whole damn thing. So i figured i didnt want to slide down my whole road and pass my house, so i thought it would be best to throw it in 2nd and slowly creep up. i made it about half way and all i could do was spin. so i back down my road and back down the road at the bottom a little, so i could attempt my descent from the top... i throw it in first and then into second and im on my way...im going around a curve and all of a sudden i feel the tires lose their grip, i ease up on the gas so i dont spin around in a circle, but next thing i know i go about a 90 degree turn and i am off the lip of the road...Basically im screwed cuz im spinning in dirt..so i finally get my dad to come down in his tacoma and chain the two vehicles together and he pulls me out. The moral of this story: dont drive in the snow with the stock tires ever. later.