Originally posted by lo bux racer+Jan 25 2006, 08:54 PM-->QUOTE (lo bux racer @ Jan 25 2006, 08:54 PM)
@Jan 25 2006, 06:39 PM
1000HP at the crank or the wheels? Not to sound skeptical, but I find it a bit hard to belive that much power is coming out of a 2.0L economy designed engine; that's 250Hp per cylinder which is quite insane. Guys haven't broken the 1000HP at the wheels for my platform (3.0L performance designed engine) yet but they are getting very close (up to nearly 900 HP at the wheels by Ray Pampena in Long Island, NY; there is approximately a 25% drivetrain loss for my vehicle type). I don't know, perhaps it's because the Toyota engines were more widely use and have much more aftermarket support that will allow them to build that much power. Or, it's from a crazy large turbo that doesn't spool until 4k. Either way, if it's real then it is very significant.
The 3S-GTE is Toyota's "racing" engine, it was never installed in an economy car. Ever. It comes in a few flavors, some of which are not commonly available. Garden varieties are well known to make between 500 and 600 hp with the right turbo and internals.
If you don't know how to make 1000 hp with 2 liters, you're behind. F1 was doing 1500 hp out of 1.5 liters in the late 80's. There have been Honda guys making 1000 hp with even less than 2 liters. Spikey? Sure, but if you can drive it, the power is there.
I know guys haven't broke 1000 hp for VR4s. There's a reason I own a Supra, not the smallest reason is the '91s breaking their cranks because they failed to radius the journals at the factory. Very rookie mistake for a company like Mitsu, and very expensive for them and their owners. It was enough for me to say I'll wait for the Toyota. Not to mention the viscous coupler in those things are notorious for dying with no inexpensive solution, and the gearbox parts for your Getrags are ridiculously expensive. Lots of reasons to choose a different route. [/b]