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I talked to some people at injen and they said that the CAI would be released in 2-3 weeks. The person I spoke to wasnt sure about CARB approval though. We'll just have to wait and see.
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u can buy now but the thing is when it will be shipped to u.
We've been told these have not ( cannot?) pass CARB. Has anyone seen one with a CARB sticker on it or does anyone know why they can't seem to get approved?

Ken
I dont know but I always liked injen they look cool =o)
Originally posted by Ken@May 20 2005, 12:55 PM
We've been told these have not ( cannot?) pass CARB. Has anyone seen one with a CARB sticker on it or does anyone know why they can't seem to get approved?

Ken
Mine has a carb sticker on it. I have better pics than the ones above that I took this week but I won't be able to post them until Monday.
It may have a sticker, but there's no EO for it. I just searched CARB's site, there are NO E.O. numbers for any tC in the intake/filter category. Sorry, but the sticker's a fake.
Originally posted by Ken@May 20 2005, 12:55 PM
We've been told these have not ( cannot?) pass CARB. Has anyone seen one with a CARB sticker on it or does anyone know why they can't seem to get approved?

Ken
Probably for the same reason AEM can't get it approved...whatever that reason is.
I know. That's one of the reasons I've seriously considered moving to Arizona!
Originally posted by lo bux racer@May 20 2005, 05:02 PM
It may have a sticker, but there's no EO for it. I just searched CARB's site, there are NO E.O. numbers for any tC in the intake/filter category. Sorry, but the sticker's a fake.
But is it a good enough fake to pass smog?
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As long as the tech isn't too picky. If he is picky the fines could be brutal. Upper limit is $10k.
how about i take a carb sticker from my old intake for my other car and put it on that intake?
Why the hell are these performance products for the TC having a hard time passing CARB? Did other vehicles had a hard time too or is it just our TC? I'm getting pissed off.
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Ken asked me a question about this. Here's my reply:

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I think the real problem is the activated charcoal filter in the OEM airbox. It is part of the evaporative emissions control system, and nobody can build an intake with it in place and guarantee it will do the same thing the OEM piece does.

CARB bases all their evaluations on meeting the original specification that passed a brutal battery of tests (including one called the SHED test, where the seal the car in an enclosed area and measure the HC emissions over a period of a few days) required for initial certification to California specs. If the aftermarket piece doesn't have all the same features as the OEM device, they're instantly going to reject it.

Since the carbon filter is integral to the evap control, and since no one wants to pay to have the car SHED tested again without it (if I remember right, it costs about $250k for that test alone), it has to be present for CARB to approve the mod.

So, IMHO, that's the real problem with all these intake related mods and receiving a CARB E.O. number. It's just plain too expensive to prove the car will meet EVAP emissions without the carbon filter in place, and ALL the intake mods (including turbos and superchargers) expect to remove the carbon filter when the OEM airbox goes to the dumpster.

There is nothing wrong with any of the intakes AFA performance and reliability, so I wouldn't sweat that at all. It's just another nit-picking, screwed up, California has to be different, PITA. Nothing for you or your 49 State customers to be worried about.[/b]
^^^ I'm really dissapointed with Toyco for this.

Maybe they can issue a recall and state that the charcoal doesn't really belong there. They were having a company barbecue and one of the employees "accidentally" layed the charcoal for the grill on top of the airbox and it got mass produced that way.
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Here's a link to a picture of the C.A.R.B. EO# that is on eBay.

Injen intake on eBay
I guess they are using the one for the 4cyl Camry motor.
Ok yea so i bought an Injen intake from Wholesale Hyperperformance this week and installed it last night. The power gains were not huge but noticeable things were better throttle response and easier breathing. Also at higher revs it climbs higher faster. Much louuder which is what i wanted to. It was a bit of a bitch to install especially the down piping for the cold air part but other than that its pretty straight forward. Ive seen the intakes on sale only at two places, Wholesalehyperperformance and hopupracing.com Ill try to get pics of the intake later and there is no carb number on it like the one on ebay
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