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Originally posted by IhaveAtc@Jul 19 2005, 06:53 PM
what kinda rims r those man, how much and what size
If you check sig they are in there...the rims are 2 piece RO_JA Formula 7 gunmetal with a chrome lip 18 X 8 with a 37mm offset....

Got 'em on Ebay for $700 or so shipped with lug nuts
 

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If you dont wanna spend 250bucks for a CAI cause that is just WAY to much..You can try these people. The material is a composite plastic and strong..does nto get hot like metal would..I made up and intake for my XRunner that gets fed air from the hoodscoop on the truck
http://www.powerflowracing.com/3modular.html






I used that Modular intake stuff and bought the pieces I need and the filter...Stuff is pretty cheap the tubes pieces cost me 40bucks but the filter was 30..So it was like total of 80bucks...But I am pleased with the look.
Here is the company..You can design ANY intake you want..Stuff is really great and high quality. I do have a heat shield under the filter now and all the lines are plumbed into the pipe. So its tad different then pic. Sounds awsome to.
 

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haha, I live in the chicago suburbs and ive TOTALLY seen you driving before. Around St.Charles, Geneva, Batavia, Elgin area.

I didnt know you had that much engine #### on that car though.

Crazy.. I bet its mega fun!
 

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Ahhh, Ive been fighting whether to go with a cai, short ram, or a drop in filter. Livin in miami it can rain quite a bit but it also gets hott as hell. Though i also want a meaner sound.
 

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im sorry, what? sound faster ormore aggresive? i dont things can sound fast. or can they? either way looks great but i am a big fan of powder coating. polish thigs and fingers or dirt dont get along very well.

does the injen intake system come with a dry filter? an oil filter that close to the MAF is bound to throwa CEL soon.
 

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as a short ram the low end response was much better[/b]
Um no, its actually worse.

Bypass valves and socks will hurt your performance even more.

why spend 300 dollars to risk your car's life?

Spend 60 bucks to make your own


out of less heat retaining material


 

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$60? Please explain.
You replaced the piece running from the filter box to the engine and it gives the same performance gains as a $300 CAI? Do you have a K&N Filter in there as well? Sorry if these are stupid questions.. but I'm still learning about this stuff.

$60 for a performance/sound gain without replacing the entire stock intake system sounds more my speed. I've been wary of doing a CAI or Short Ram or any of that stuff.. but like I said, I'm a still a n00b and don't know anything about it. :/


EDIT: I guess I should read the GFI thread. /bonks self repeatedly Sorry about that.
 

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since there is virtually zero power gain (measurable) from an intake anyway, i would say, yes, he gets the same out of it.
 

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thing is, people will say they "feel" a difference, so this is usually a very heated debate. the discussion / argument was recently had HERE. it's a lot of pages with a lot of stuff, but you will get the idea.
 

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I'm not even done with it ..its going to total about 120ish.. I still am waiting for my filter, and I have to run an airduct from the air box through the fender to the false grill for outter cool air. The line runs from the throttle body to the airbox. The sound is a bit louder and the loved whistle is waay louder. (like a BoV) 60 dollars was the price for just the line.

I guess you could say this is a cool air intake. It is going to be sucking cool air from outside of the engine compartment. It has less heatsoak than aftermarket Brand Intakes. The pleasure of doing this intake 100% my self wins over spending 300 dolalrs on an aftermakret intake that has the potential to kill my engine. It's pure satisfaction! If you want more info, look up "GFI" Dr Isotope came up with it.
 

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To say that there are zero gains from a CAI is pretty false.

There aren't substantial gains from a CAI but there ARE gains.

The OEM intake tract is VERY baffled. There are several resonator boxes connected to the plastic piping - each box will hamper the airflow and decrease noise. That is why with a CAI people will hear a more "agressive" sound. And, the same with the exhaust, when the resonators and bafflings are removed, gains can and will be realized.

The discussion on NASCAR engines with the tiny restrictor plates is 100% true and very valid. What it doesn't cover though, is the uniformity of the intake tract for those engines. The 2AZ has at least two large resonator chambers or boxes connected to the piping as well as that ruffled baffling which all somewhat impede airflow. Also, the most restrictive part of the OEM system (probably where the real gains will show up) is the OEM paper filter. That thing is really thick! Replacing it with a cone filter and providing a proper path for the air will yield at least some power advantage. I don't know how much (if any) gains can be realized from the "cold air" that is supposedly coming through from the wheel well. I would always recommend the GFI over any CAI but a CAI should show some purpose on the dyno.

CAIs can, however, be detrimental, time wise. Some owners have tested CAI equipped tCs with those nifty G Tech toys and found increases in 0-60 times. Some owners, looking to find real world advantages of the CAI, have raced stock tCs and found themselves coming up short a few fractions of a car length. Also, the reverse has been found to be true.

But regardless of real world times in street and track drag races, the gain in power will be there. The question really should be whether or not the power is useable.

My answer? For racing purposes, don't bother. For daily driving and some nice bling in the engine bay, it's totally worth it.
 
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