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so as i am motoring my happy ass down the 210 freeway yesterday, westbound headed for I5 to get home, i wrecked my tC a bit. for anyone in the OC/LA area, you all know what kind of traffic is out there. i was following a truck that was high enough it didnt need to swerve to aviod the BIG FREAKIN SEMI TIRE in the lane we were in. his ability to clear the obstruction left me with no indication of my need to move around something, and with the lanes next to me filled up, i couldnt have swerved far enough anyway without causing an accident. always willing to take one for the team, i plowed directly over what had to be about 3/4 of a full truck tire. the next thing i heard was plastic scraping concrete, and it was off the freeway to assess damages.
looks like i will be getting a new front bumper, new airsplitter things, a new tow-plug, and a new lower grille. my tC took it like a champ, and with a little tucking and pushing and bending, we managed enough ground clearance to drive her home and into my garage.
anyone want to buy a slightly f#cked front bumper?
 

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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
on the plus side, i get a shiny new bumper with no rock chips or license plate holes. straight over to the clear bra guy.
 

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^^^ gee, thanks, dad. you must not drive much in L.A. there is no following far enough behind. the second you give an inch, four assholes in hummers squeeze between you and the guy you were trailing, leaving you tailgating and, with all the traffic surrounding, with no room to go around. especially in the mid afternoon, when traffic is at its worst. you can lay down best case scenario all you want, but the fact is, for all anyone can do, there is that time you cant do a damn thing.
 

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man, for someone who wasnt there, you sure do have all the answers, samsingha. funny, my insurance company called it a no fault. there was nothing careless about my driving. i wasnt following a semi truck. i was following a pickup truck. i wouldnt have been able to see the tire if i had been following another tC. and if he hadnt swerved, i would have had no indication, wait, why am i explaining myself to you?
so i guess you are the guy that never gets caught by surprise anytime in your life, even when you are doing everything right. congratulations. you are the best driver ever because you always follow the 2 second rule from driver's ed.
bottom line, you werent there. so what makes you qualified to assess the situation? oh, thats right. nothing.
 

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Discussion Starter · #24 ·
Originally posted by inevitablegod@Sep 7 2005, 04:45 PM
and with the lanes next to me filled up, i couldnt have swerved far enough anyway without causing an accident.
besides, dr driving skill, what would you have done? even if i was following a 4 second rule it wouldnt have changed the fact that over the tire was the best choice since there was no way out of that lane due to the other traffic. so, i guess you would have had time to brake, avoiding a rear ending so common in L.A, while managing to create a hole in the lane next to you without cutting anyone off (so common in L.A) or causing an accident that could have injured people and destroyed more vehicles, while avoiding the tire and still calmly sipping on your mocha. sure.
 

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Discussion Starter · #26 ·
Originally posted by bluesciontc@Sep 8 2005, 01:06 PM
i am right with you and like i said b4 glad to see that you are ok and that the tC is fixable.
why thank you.
 

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Originally posted by lo bux racer@Sep 8 2005, 01:07 PM
So, D, what happened behind you after you passed over the tire chunk? Was it more damaged cars, or a 6 lane pile up? I'm betting on more damaged cars...
the guy behind me actually kicked the tire into the next lane, into another car. after that, i couldnt tell what happened, too many bumpers and my eyes were on getting over far enough to exit and assess damages.
 

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Discussion Starter · #29 ·
here's what it looks like.



 

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Discussion Starter · #33 ·
Originally posted by lo bux racer@Sep 8 2005, 02:05 PM
Australia/New Zealand. I'm working on that.

D, don't let them keep that broken bumper, I bet it can be repaired, and would make a fine addition to the spare parts collection for things like track days where this kind of damage is more common...
no doubt. i have no intention of letting that bumper go in the recycle bin.
 

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Originally posted by TopeExplosivo+Sep 8 2005, 02:37 PM-->QUOTE (TopeExplosivo @ Sep 8 2005, 02:37 PM)
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Sam, I've been to Pattaya and seen Thai traffic.  It's different, but predictable, and I am glad I didn't have to drive in it.
What you have on the East Coast that we don't have in the West is a sense of civility.  For example, Californians will run up the merge lane and expect some poor soul who's been waiting for an age in traffic to let him/her in while all the lanes are stopped just to get ahead of a few cars.  I had one guy get so pissed off when I refused to let him in, that he rolled down his window and started yelling at me. This sense of self-importance governs nearly all driving in California, so if you give the slightest hint of an opportunity, someone will take it and jam right in front of you.  Yes, our SUV/truck population out here is ABSURD.  In one week I had lifted pickup trucks run me onto the shoulder three times because they completely failed to look before executing a lane change into me.  No fault of mine, they completely failed to see me.
While it would be wonderful to take a Zen master approach to driving in California, doing so would add a 50% time tax to any trip during moderate to heavy traffic.  You set up your following distance, and sure enough, someone jumps in it, so you reset your following distance, and suffer the same discourteous act over and over again.  This happens routinely.  In many cases in NorCal it is actually faster to use the right lane aggressively than to try and maintain a constant safety envelope in the fast lane.  Everyone seems to want to hang out in the left lane, and of course, there is nothing to discourage this, so the whole system is subverted and fails where it really needs to work.  I have not seen this same kind of blatant aggression on the East Coast, and definitely not in the Midwest.

I'm not talking out my ass, I've driven all over the world on both sides of the road in a variety of vehicles both left and right-hand drive.  California is unique in many ways, and it takes time to understand the unwritten rules of the road, just like anywhere else.
FWIW, I never drive next to, or behind a semi if I can avoid it.  Unfortunately, it is not always possible to avoid it, even when trying your best.
You make it sound like you believe Thailand is some "Candy Cane Fairy Land" where there aren't selfish, aggressive people who think they are better than someone else, which leads me to say one thing:

BWaaaaHAHAHAHAHA!


You must've spent one really good day in Pattaya. I won't ask what you were doing there. I don't want to know! And somehow, in your time there you managed to not see one Thai Cabbie. Amazing! Pattaya AIN'T Bangkok, where he's from, either. Pattaya City has only 65,000 (20,000 of whom are estimated by a U.N. survey to be working in the sex trade, BTW) and is primarily a beach resort town. Bangkok is what, 9 MILLION? You might as well be comparing Daytona Beach to New York City when you compare Pattaya to Bangkok.

Fact is, LA is one of the most cross-cultural cities on the planet Earth. Period. What you see in LA is the population of the WORLD, all getting together with the some of the finest (and some of the worst) examples of horsepower engineering that Japan, Germany, Great Britain, Korea, Italy and the Good Ol' [email protected]&%ing-A can produce in one car-crazy town.

(singing)
"We are the WORLD...We are the CHILDR--Hey! Get that F#&%* ricer Sh&^ off the ROAD!"
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first off, sometimes people grab the ball and then run in the entirely wrong direction.

second - can i have just one f#cking thread that doesnt turn into an off-topic pissing contest? you want to debate the finer points of traffic thailand? start a thread about it.
 

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Discussion Starter · #37 ·
^^^ its all good with me. the place is friendly. but not without some other stuff thrown in now and again.
you dont need to apologize to me for anything. i understand what you are saying.
 

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Discussion Starter · #39 ·
yeah, that thought crossed my mind as well. i could easily repair it and use it to make a nice one off front bumper. at the very least, it could be my long trip bumper so the same thing doesnt happen to the new one i get for it. keeping it wont be a problem, one of the benefits to being a dealer is having a good relationship with the local body shops. they will let me keep any parts i want.
 

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Discussion Starter · #46 ·
Originally posted by Pharoh@Sep 8 2005, 08:42 PM
I always thought it was a nice avatar.
oh sh!t. i didnt realize you were rocking that avatar, pharoh. my bad. i wasnt trying to window shop your style. give me til 1, i will swap it out.

<what a biter.
 

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Originally posted by TopeExplosivo@Sep 9 2005, 07:04 PM
Inevitablegod: My studio is right across the street from an excellent bodyshop that does a bunch of work by hand on classics, exotics, and other things I cannot afford. Over the last few years, I've gotten to know them, so I know how nice those kinds of friendships can be. Work in trade rocks. I've got a long-term 1st Gen Z project going on (and off...and on, and off) and they have really helped me with everything from how to not buy a rust bucket (you've got to look in specific places where it tends to hide on those cars) to teaching me some minor and not-so-minor bodyworking skills.

I'd seriously consider doing a custom, one-off kit with that thing if I were in your shoes with your resources as a dealer. It wouldn't even need to be that radical. I've seen somebody around here or on that other site with a photoshop of the current bumper, but just stretched down a bit. It looked so sick, yet it was so perfect with the design of the tC, (which I think is really beautifully designed,) that you couldn't really tell what was so different about it. That's what I'd like to do. I guess I'd need to learn to glass first though!
i agree, the front bumper on the tC is very nice in it's own regard, and needs very little modification in my opinion. but, a simple downward extension following the same lines as the original bumper is what i have always seen in my head. no radical angle changes, no big freakin downforce lip in front. no sharp edges, smoothed and rounded like the tC is already. "stretch" the second grille hole down, and match that along the corners, opening the useless corner holes up and ducting it in for brake cooling. custom upper and lower grilles to match. simple, clean, and subtle. stealth. hell, i have the bumper. and i can easily obtain a stock set of side skirts for free. if it was done right, the factory lip kit rear piece could be used to complete it.

i'm down. dont suppose you are in the norcal area?
 

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Discussion Starter · #55 ·
retail on the front bumper cover is about $225 unpainted. available at your local scion dealer.
 
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