[Eden Project]

Okay, I have a bunch of questions about the Scion. Maybe not a bunch, as there are several floating around in my head, but I am at work so I probably wont remember them all.

1. Why can I not find any places that has accessories for the tC?
(besides the mcgeorge place.)
- i wanted to see what a few different body kits would look like. i don't have my scion yet, so it is not a huge deal, but when i get it, i plan to get a body kit. i don't want to totally rice it out, just a body kit and a nice exhaust (no watermelon cannon exhausts)

2. What kind of exhaust would be best? I don't know alot about this stuff, my current car is a bigger piece of shxt than karl malone. If anybody can give me a suggestion of a brand, and an estimate on how much they would cost.

3. How difficult is it to install these things. Meaning, body kit, exhaust, intake. I would imagine the exhaust would be relatively difficult, and I would take it somewhere, but the body kit looks like it would just be some screws to me. Like I said above, i'm a n00b, so don't be mean please -=D im just trying to find out some information before I get the car. If anybody can help me out, or provide links to sites that have performance parts for tC's i'd greatly appreciate it!

 

[phammerz]

1. well, first off, the scion tC hasn't been out long enough for most companies to make body kits, it takes time, there is one in fabrication process by Krazy Kustoms, but yah you just have to wait

2. Well it depends on what you want from the exhaust, and what your future plans are for your car, a Full cat back will give you better flow and more hp gains than just the TRD axel back exhaust, it will most likely give you a louder sound as well, soo depending on what you want, you'll be able to choose by asking yourself if you want more hp gains, and what type of sound, and look

3. Installing the stuff might be a hassle if you dont have the tools, so you might have to go to a shop to get that stuff done. The body kit thing, you'll have to most definitely goto a shop because not all aftermarket kits fit without soem adjustments ie cutting, that and youd have to paint it, thats why i went with the factory kit, perfect fit, color, and its made out of ueaurtane (sp?) which is stronger than fiber glass and carbon fiber =)
*edit* oh and some of the body kits and stuff might require drilling and stuff, whcih i myself would never do just because i'm a perfectionist =)
i hoped i helped

 

[Eden Project]

Yeah thats alot of help. I dont really want something that will make my car look all "sheepish" I just want something that will look good and sound okay. I don't want people to hear me coming from a mile away, i just want them to hear it none-the-less. Is the factory body kit good looking? I can't really see the difference in the picture on the "build your own scion" place. So I'm wondering if anybody has pictures of the super white scion with and without the body kit. I definately want to get the kit for mine. How much does it usually cost to have one installed, if i don't go with the factory one.

 

[FrostbytetC]

For a body kit installation, including fabrication, and fitment, blending, filling, sanding, priming, painting etc, you're looking at for most places between $1,000 and $2,000. It depends on the stops reputation, and the quality of both the work, and the aftermarket parts involved. I can tell you from experience that body kits don't fit right. I bought my body kit for my eagle talon directly though Wings West. This wasn't an e-bay knock off... I payed $375 for just the front bumper from Wings West. This front bumper took 12 hours to install with a professional body specialist who has been doing body work and collision work for 25 years. Just imagine a whole kit. Not i'm not saying that all kits don't fit well.... but trust me, anything aftermarket will never fit perfectly, its just how things go. Good luck with whatever you decide. I will also add that if you really want a dramatic change to the look of your tC when you get it, don't bother with the Factory ground effects. They change the car, but still keeping the main idea of the factory bumpers due to the fact it is just ground effects not a body kit. I would guess that body kits won't be released in abundance until next spring...

 

[Eden Project]

mmk, thank you for your help. I will probably hold out to get an actual body kit instead of the factory kit.

 

[J&J FlintC]

i went with the factory kit, perfect fit, color, and its made out of ueaurtane (sp?) which is stronger than fiber glass and carbon fiber =)


correction urethane is not stronger than fiberglass or carbon fiber allow though it is more resilient, less rigid. It will bend and flex easily if you bump a curb or something but it will bend back once you back up.. fiberglass and carbon fiber will put up with more stress, but once you reach the breaking point there is no going back because it will crack instead of flex.

 

[phammerz]

sorry if some of my facts were wrong but i had the right intention =), i personally like the factory body kit, but some feel that liek $1000 for it was a bit excessive due to the subtle difference, whatever makes you happy tho, i suggest you go see one in person first then decide, because you can't beat the quality and fitment and such so good luck =), ooo and i would like the reccomend the TRD exhaust, it sounds just perfect for me not too loud but not too soft either =)

 

[andfx8]

My older brother said $525 is pretty expensive for what we're getting in terms of the TRD exhaust; what he said kind of discouraged me about buying it. I'd like to see what other options I have for the exhaust or that spare money before I jump to any decisions.

 

[imasaf]

Originally posted by Andfx8@Aug 12 2004, 11:09 PM
My older brother said $525 is pretty expensive for what we're getting in terms of the TRD exhaust; what he said kind of discouraged me about buying it. I'd like to see what other options I have for the exhaust or that spare money before I jump to any decisions.

Thats what I heard too... that its a bit expensive I mean..

 

[phammerz]

well when you buy TRD, isnt it under warranty?, well newayZ most ppl will add exhaust systems for the hp and not for the sound i guess?, cuz i bet my TRD exhaust adds negligible gains

 

[imasaf]

If the dealer installs it ... it should be under warranty. I'm not sure about self installs or non-toyota/scion installs...

 

[Eden Project]

hmm, thats good stuff, thanks for all the info, also, do any of you know how much it would cost to put on the lower springs? i would imagine that's something i would hafta have professionally done, i doubt me or any of my buddies could do it.

 

[Eden Project]

oh, and how hard is it to put on the carbon fiber b-pillars?

 

[LoopyLady_1]

As far as the springs go, I'm really not sure about the cost of installation, but I'm pretty sure you'll want it professionally done.

The B-Pillars are pretty much just Peel-N-Stick. Very very easy.

 

[imasaf]

Originally posted by Eden Project@Aug 13 2004, 03:45 AM
oh, and how hard is it to put on the carbon fiber b-pillars?

Hmm... I purchased the CF Pillars but I have not installed them yet. I have the instructions if you want to email me and I wills end it off to you...

 

[Eden Project]

Hmm, won't you need them? If they're just peel and stick (basically) then thats cool. I just didn't wanna hafta screw anything. Or do anything that could mess it up.

 

[imasaf]

Originally posted by Eden Project@Aug 13 2004, 03:10 PM
Hmm, won't you need them? If they're just peel and stick (basically) then thats cool. I just didn't wanna hafta screw anything. Or do anything that could mess it up.

The carbon fiber pillars are peel and stick but there is special instructions like you have to heat them up to a certain degree... etc.

 

[FrostbytetC]

In regards to the post regarding power gains from the trd exhaust. My sales person went to a test show for the tC in Syracure new york. It was basically a training on sales for them (pre-official release) and a show. They had some with the trd exhaust and according to him.... he felt a noticable gain... what he guessed to be around 10-15hp. While he is a sales person, he also had alot of respect for me and my knowledge of cars, so I know he was not just trying to sell me an exhaust. I am looking forward to getting mine... although, how long I will keep it just the axle back is yet to be seen. More than likely 10-15HP is a very optimistic guess, but I trust TRD and I don't think that they'd sell a product just for the "tuned" sound... it just wouldn't be worth putting their reputation on the line for. As far as real numbers, only a dyno would tell.... but I can promise you it will give you something beyond just a nice tone

 

[Eden Project]

i have to heat it up? how do i do that? put it in the oven?

 

[imasaf]

Originally posted by Eden Project@Aug 14 2004, 04:10 PM
i have to heat it up? how do i do that? put it in the oven?

Hahaha... I don't know how to either... lol... it says that you have to prep the area with some 3M stuff.. (my brother said you can also use denatured alcohol or something) and then make sure the CF pillars are between 70-100 degrees (if I remember correctly) before you apply... It doesn't tell you how to do it... I was going to use a hair dryer... but another good idea is to leave them in your car in the sun for a few hours... I'm sure they will be hot enough then... Besides that... I have no clue how to get them heated....