[zoltiz]

Had a chance to screw with a real M3 this weekend - the roommate of one of our Atlanta guys stopped by our meet. We replaced one of the speakers on the things - Harman Kardon proved again that their stuff does not last. Surprisingly, M3's door panel is attached the same way it is on a $8K Echo. Well, the speaker replaced, I got to drive the damn thing.

The shifter felt funny from the start - the throws were longer than tC's stock. So much for a sporty car. On the road it was nice and peppy, but again, not $25K peppy. Went for a little drive and on the way back when I tried to do a quick 1-2 shift I ripped the shifknob right off the rod. Turned out it is not threaded - just clicked on the rod somehow, plus there are (were) wires going inside the knob for a reddish "M3 style" backlight. Well, no more

All in all, with couple of little mods (quickshifter) it can be a fun car, but I'm happy I did not go for one myself. The thing is definitely not worth the $25K+ for a 5-year old car.

I know it's not a real testdrive, but it was enough to get my BMW enthusiasm down a bit

 

[lo bux racer]

And you wonder why I think they're poorly made for the price they ask? That car cost $40k when it was new...So did my Supra, and it still has the original everything except things I specifically modded. I've never even had to change a light bulb. Just another reason I love Toyota.

 

[cad455]

my friend had an E36 318. a 1.8 making 140 hp isn't too horrible. i drove it extensively, and while i can't speak for the m3, everything about his used E36 seemed very solid. not a sports car, but it was a fun, quality drive.

another friend of mine has a 350Z track model and constantly complains about not having an M3. (dur...)

 

[aniggaztc]

Wow

, my friend has a 328Ci and it is 10x more fun to drive then my tC IMO, so if you think that your tC is better then a ///m3, i fell that you might need some serious psychological help.

 

[basilisk4]

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[zoltiz]

For the money M3 costs I can make tC 2x as much fun to drive and 2x as fast as M3.

 

[basilisk4]

For the money a new M3 costs I could've gotten my tC plus a used Supra TT. Then I would've had a car that's twice as fast and twice as hot, PLUS my tC, which I love.

Or, for the price of a 5-year-old M3, I could've gotten my tC and saved $7,000...oh, wait -- I did do that.

 

[aniggaztc]

Bmw>Supra>Scion

 

[aniggaztc]

Originally posted by basilisk4@Dec 29 2004, 07:54 PM
For the money a new M3 costs I could've gotten my tC plus a used Supra TT. Then I would've had a car that's twice as fast and twice as hot, PLUS my tC, which I love.

Or, for the price of a 5-year-old M3, I could've gotten my tC and saved $7,000...oh, wait -- I did do that.

and our scions do beat an 7 year old car huh?.....wait no the don't. dammit.

 

[zoltiz]

Originally posted by aniggaztc+Dec 29 2004, 11:13 PM-->QUOTE (aniggaztc @ Dec 29 2004, 11:13 PM)

<!--QuoteBegin-basilisk4

@Dec 29 2004, 07:54 PM
For the money a new M3 costs I could've gotten my tC plus a used Supra TT.  Then I would've had a car that's twice as fast and twice as hot, PLUS my tC, which I love.

Or, for the price of a 5-year-old M3, I could've gotten my tC and saved $7,000...oh, wait -- I did do that.

and our scions do beat an 7 year old car huh?.....wait no the don't. dammit. [/b]

tC will beat any '05 $16.5K car.

 

[basilisk4]

I'm pretty sure that's the way that day actually happened.

 

[aniggaztc]

well, first take some photochop at your local community college hopefully your scion can make it there. then pay real close attention to the profresor. and i would so much rather have a bimmer than a supra, no offense supras are quick but i dont really like rice, well maybe steamed rice but thats about it. and those guys bimmer ethusiasts too.

 

[basilisk4]

So you like paying thousands more for cars that cost thousands to fix when they break and look exactly like the other thousands of identical BMWs on the road?

 

[lo bux racer]

Originally posted by aniggaztc@Dec 29 2004, 09:06 PM
well, first take some photochop at your local community college hopefully your scion can make it there. then pay real close attention to the profresor. and i would so much rather have a bimmer than a supra, no offense supras are quick but i dont really like rice, well maybe steamed rice but thats about it. and those guys bimmer ethusiasts too.

I eat Bimmers for breakfast, lunch, and dinner with my Supra in a straight line, through the twisties, and any other place an idiot Bimmer driver wants to challenge me. I have done it MANY times.

First, you want me to grant you some credibility when your screen name is a racial epithet. Oh, yeah, I don't care if you are African American, calling yourself aniggaztc is plain racist.

Second, you want me to think a stupid 5 cent mod to fool the ECM is worth 5 to 10 hp. All you managed to do is screw up your car and make it markedly slower. That's probably the stupidest mod I have ever seen for a TCCS controlled engine.

Third and last, you're just another wannabe BMW owner. Buy one and enjoy the poor workmanship, high maintenance costs, and faulty designs. You wouldn't know a reliable, fast, good handling car if it bit you; and if you lost control of your tC, you can't drive no matter who manufactured the car.

You are just another troll with a picture of someone else's tC.

If this were an email list, I'd ask the admins to boot you.

 

[aniggaztc]

Originally posted by lo bux racer+Dec 29 2004, 11:09 PM-->QUOTE (lo bux racer @ Dec 29 2004, 11:09 PM)

<!--QuoteBegin-aniggaztc

@Dec 29 2004, 09:06 PM
well, first take some photochop at your local community college hopefully your scion can make it there. then pay real close attention to the profresor. and i would so much rather have a bimmer than a supra, no offense supras are quick but i dont really like rice, well maybe steamed rice but thats about it. and those guys bimmer ethusiasts too.

I eat Bimmers for breakfast, lunch, and dinner with my Supra in a straight line, through the twisties, and any other place an idiot Bimmer driver wants to challenge me. I have done it MANY times.

First, you want me to grant you some credibility when your screen name is a racial epithet. Oh, yeah, I don't care if you are African American, calling yourself aniggaztc is plain racist.

Second, you want me to think a stupid 5 cent mod to fool the ECM is worth 5 to 10 hp. All you managed to do is screw up your car and make it markedly slower. That's probably the stupidest mod I have ever seen for a TCCS controlled engine.

Third and last, you're just another wannabe BMW owner. Buy one and enjoy the poor workmanship, high maintenance costs, and faulty designs. You wouldn't know a reliable, fast, good handling car if it bit you; and if you lost control of your tC, you can't drive no matter who manufactured the car.

You are just another troll with a picture of someone else's tC.

If this were an email list, I'd ask the admins to boot you. [/b]

[email protected] at me! son yeah! dipset in the building!peace my naca.

 

[aniggaztc]

oh and thanks for capitalizing the BMW and B on bimmers it seems you have good taste too my friend. [email protected]!. and i never talked any #### about supras i have nothing against them its just these idiots who think there 160hp and what not cars think that they can race and beat anyone on the streets thats it.peace.dipset!killa!juelz!jr [email protected]!

 

[lo bux racer]

It's a proper noun and should be capitalized regardless, but that understanding seems to be beyond your skillset as well.

Yes I have good taste, I would never buy any German car except Mercedes-Benz and even they are slipping with their recent Chrysler acquisition and diminished quality ratings.

N3 1d10t c4n 5p34k h4x0r if U c4n ju5t typ3. 50 wh4t?

 

[aniggaztc]

Originally posted by lo bux racer@Dec 29 2004, 11:31 PM
I would never buy any German car except Mercedes-Benz and even they are slipping with their recent Chrysler acquisition and diminished quality ratings.

so you dont like german cars, have you heard of the Story of Sour Grapes

 

[lo bux racer]

I bought a Supra brand new in '94 when they cost $45k. I make wine with grapes, and I can drive anything I want under $100k.

Please get off the leg, you're acting like a silly yard dog.

 

[basilisk4]

Originally posted by aniggaztc@Dec 30 2004, 04:05 AM
so you dont like german cars, have you heard of the Story of Sour Grapes

Have you heard of WWI and II?