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nY1018

Discussion Starter · Apr 2, 2005

well, all over the forums i see how installing an audio system in your car can void the warranty if the electrical fails. i was wondering, does this really happen alot.........like, does the electrical unit really just break down some times?

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aznxthuggie

· #2 · Apr 4, 2005

it depends what you're doing

but most of the time.. i think you'll just blow some fuses, or your equipment, the car rarely dies from a system, unless you turn it up with the car off and kill your batter/alternator, or if you're running 2000rms on the stock alt for long periods of time

LaVaism

· #3 · Apr 4, 2005

Correct me if I am wrong here but the alternator puts out 100 amps which is pretty good for stock alternator. So if your amps draw to much power and cause the alternator to fry then I think that voids the warranty. So to prevent this I suggest yellow top battery or even red top or blue top battery.

cmlloveless

· #4 · Apr 4, 2005

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So to prevent this I suggest yellow top battery or even red top or blue top battery.[/b]

Once the car is running the system runs off the alternator just like everything else hooked up to the battery. Getting a deep cell battery will only be more costly for no reason unless you run your system with the car off alot. the only reason I can see to get a deep cell is for the color to match a dressed up engine.

LaVaism

· #5 · Apr 4, 2005

Deep cycle's prevent diming lights and let the amps run at full power without killing the alternator. All the alternator has to do is keep charging the battery. Normal battery will die quicker then a deep cycle. I can destroy a regular battery with my system but a deep cycle last longer.

nY1018

Discussion Starter · #6 · Apr 4, 2005

thx, i think im ready to put my system in.

kckid

· #7 · Apr 4, 2005

Originally posted by LaVaism@Apr 4 2005, 08:38 AM
Deep cycle's prevent diming lights and let the amps run at full power without killing the alternator. All the alternator has to do is keep charging the battery. Normal battery will die quicker then a deep cycle. I can destroy a regular battery with my system but a deep cycle last longer.

That my freinds is why you have a cap. Like the other post says under most applications you sont need one. But with that high of a powered system you do. The cap stores wxcess electricity and releases it only when there is a drain. Thats why its used to deep the lights from dimming. It also helps protect overworking and overdraining of your battery and alt.

doock87

· #8 · Apr 7, 2005

also, to clear something up: once the car is running, the alternator itself doesn't run anything. it keeps the battery charged. all of the electrical devices run off of the battery at all times. just a bit of fyi

Plissken

· #9 · Apr 7, 2005

Originally posted by doock87@Apr 6 2005, 09:32 PM
also, to clear something up: once the car is running, the alternator itself doesn't run anything. it keeps the battery charged. all of the electrical devices run off of the battery at all times. just a bit of fyi

You do realize it is the complete opposite, right? When the engine is on EVERYTHING runs off of the alternator as long as its working.

lo bux racer

· #10 · Apr 7, 2005

No, just leave him alone to his misconception. It will just turn into a big dumb argument.

iGod

· #11 · Apr 7, 2005

i like big dumb arguments.

doock87 - you are wrong.

wolo

· #12 · Apr 7, 2005

That was funny.

And once you start your car, you're not actually burning gas. The car takes air through the radiator and turns it into fuel.

lo bux racer

· #13 · Apr 7, 2005

With the help of the special organism Hamster is designing just for us. Turns waste vegetable matter directly into crude oil.

toastbox

· #14 · Apr 7, 2005

Originally posted by kckid
That my freinds is why you have a cap. Like the other post says under most applications you sont need one. But with that high of a powered system you do. The cap stores wxcess electricity and releases it only when there is a drain. Thats why its used to deep the lights from dimming. It also helps protect overworking and overdraining of your battery and alt.

Actually, a cap does *not* protect against overworking or overdraining batt/alt. If anything, it would *increase* the amount of work on your alternator, as it is yet another device that requires power. A cap is nothing more than a reservoir (read: battery), that discharges energy quickly to a device, during times when there is not enuff being supplied. Typically, this occurs during prolonged or heavy bass.

kckid

· #15 · Apr 7, 2005

Right but this adds extra security to your electrical system. Its like a buffer. I wouldnt call it a extra drain. Although it means the alternator does have to keep pumping out volts it doesnt ( to my knowledge) pull any more amps. Which is what really kills you battery and alternator. I may be wrong its been a few years since my electrical classes but thats how I remember it. Either way this alternator should handle most everything you throw at it.

LaVaism

· #16 · Apr 7, 2005

Okay let me put this whole cap thing to rest.

A cap is used to prevent clipping and provides quick burst of power to an amp when it hits a large bass drop. Its a shorter distance for the power to have to run and it can discharge that power really quick. So you get better responcive bass without the delay. Thats why you have to install the cap within 12" of the amp. The cap will sometimes help with light dimming (not much though).

Now I ask you this question. When you go to a car audio comps most people don't have caps they have extra batteries and upgraded alternators. Now this is normally for high end gear. Deep cycle batteries (yellow top / redtop) are good replacements because they hold up better. People don't pay 180.00 for a battery to color code their engine they buy it because the stereo needing power.

0-300 watts no cap or special batteries needed
.5 fraed for every 1000 watts (might need to double check that)
After 2000 watts I suggest alternator upgrade or stacking

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kckid

· #17 · Apr 8, 2005

sounds right

ScionCowboy

· #18 · Apr 9, 2005

Be leary on the system when installing. pay the 35 bucks to have a name place put it in. I have a post on here about my system blowing the gages because of a harness I bought that was wired wrong and now I have to see if the place that sold me it will cover me.

Soundguy50

· #19 · Apr 9, 2005

and just so we are all clear...best buy is not a good place to have things installed.....

atleast in california, but from what i hear thats pretty much universal

LaVaism

· #20 · Apr 9, 2005

Best Buy is expensive as all hell too.

Let me give you guys an insider on car audio. People like me don't do a high markup on products 15% max except on accessories. Best Buy does a higher mark up but they have the reputation so people pay more.

For example at Best Buy you can buy Street glow Blue Series lights for around 160.00 those lights are really only about 60.00 while I sell Street Glow Gold Sereies for 190.00 shipped (thats a lifetime warranty against breakage)

Installs are the same way, Best buy charges you 100.00 just to run wire and install an amp when it should only take them 10 mins to run everything clean. Car Audio markup is not that high (at least it shouldn't be) I know I went to CA a couple weeks ago and the prices you guys pay for stuff out there is crazy.

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