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what kinda camber am i looking at if i wanted to put the TRD springs on my car, but without aftermarket shocks?? thanx people..
im more than aware that you want zero camber when going straight, more contact patchCamber change does not help going straight which is the subject of this conversation[/b]
u asked about under compression, which for the most part (exception of bumps and ####) is NOT going straight. not like the rate of camber change would be adversely affected by a 1.5in drop anywayWhat is the rate of camber change as the suspension compresses[/b]
im also aware that the tC uses MacPherson struts in the front, i mispoke earlier calling a shock, however, my point still stands that i didnt say that camber change would wear out the shock the compression of the strut would. when u have the car lowered on a stock strut it compresses the strut however much u have lowered it correct? so if the strut is compressed most of the time it is as if there is significantly more weight in the car which will prematurely wear out the strut.Changing the ride height on the car potentially changes the side loading on the shock in the front, because it isn't exactly a shock, it is a McPherson strut[/b]
Dude, I don't feel threatened, your sig is all wrong. You have a tenth of a clue about what you are talking about and you are passing it off as fact.Originally posted by ZEROmotorsports@Feb 16 2005, 08:33 AM
yea, actually
im more than aware that you want zero camber when going straight, more contact patch
u asked about under compression, which for the most part (exception of bumps and ####) is NOT going straight. not like the rate of camber change would be adversely affected by a 1.5in drop anyway
im also aware that the tC uses MacPherson struts in the front, i mispoke earlier calling a shock, however, my point still stands that i didnt say that camber change would wear out the shock the compression of the strut would. when u have the car lowered on a stock strut it compresses the strut however much u have lowered it correct? so if the strut is compressed most of the time it is as if there is significantly more weight in the car which will prematurely wear out the strut.
BTW i didnt assume u dont know anything about alignment, i simply disagreed with what u said, no need to feel threatened buzz![]()
Why are you guessing again? "I think I've heard"???? No, if you looked at the service manual you would see quite clearly it is adjustable. If you read the posts on this site, you'd KNOW it's adjustable without a "camber kit." So why are you passing off sketchy, BS information? Get your information right or don't post. If you can't find a resource for the information, don't post. It's hard enough to modify something, but to have someone tell you something that is just plain BS as if it were fact is wrong. Stop BS'ing about things you don't know about!...i think ive heard u can adjust the camber stock. even not, the 1.5in drop the trds give wouldnt be alot of camber anyway.[/b]
Total BS... it WILL wear out the struts faster. compressing the strut more than normal in its nuetral state puts added pressure on the valving and will blow it out sooner than factory intended.Ride height has nothing to do with wear on a shock or a strut. Period. It is a gas and oil filled device that is completely unaware of ride height and wears out entirely based on usage. Stop trying to tell this guy his struts and shocks are going to wear prematurely, they won't.[/b]
a half-truth! ur getting warmer... your right that I dont KNOW what the camber specs will be. However I ASSUME (not blind guess/ hypothetical statement/ educated estimate/ etc..) that from my experience a 1.5in drop will not affect the negative camber by a large amount. Believe me If my tC had the springs on it, Id put the thing on the alignment rack and scan the specs just for u!You are absolutely GUESSING at what the camber may be after lowering[/b]
Im completely aware of a toe adjustment's effect on tire wear, and I havent mentioned it yet and neither had you until this point. However, the original post asked about camber and struts, not toe and tires.You completely failed to address the biggest concern after lowering the car: fixing the toe settings for the front and rear. Toe changes when you lower the car, and toe problems wear out tires faster than anything else you can screw up on an alignment[/b]
I STILL know what I am talking about and if you just so happen to disagree, prove itYou have a tenth of a clue about what you are talking about and you are passing it off as fact.[/b]