[FrostbytetC]

I'm very happy with my tC, however I must say I find the brakes to be lacking. Does anyone know of any aftermarket rotors that will work with the stock calipers and pads? If so, let me know of where and how much... please. Thanks in advance!

Rob

 

[SilverX]

All I know is that they are originally Celica GT-S Big Brakes from AEM.

 

[FrostbytetC]

Yeah, thanks man... I've seen those pics before. I love the look... but I can honestly say AEM is not a brand I'd trust completely for brakes... maybe for intakes and things of that nature, but not brakes. And plus, I think those are really expensive.

 

[J&J FlintC]

would love to have those rotors on my ride just dont know what color i want!!

 

[SilverX]

For some reason I love slotted brakes but not drilled. Again, probably its because its more plainish than drilled which give it more exotic looks.

 

[FrostbytetC]

Yeah, those rotors do look hott! I'd want red though!

 

[TCrazy]

cross drilled are weaker than just slotted and therefore more prone to crack. FrostByte i think to improve performance you should skip getting new rotors and chaange your pads to EBC-GREEN's. - t

 

[FrostbytetC]

I would never buy cross drilled rotors... in the weather I contend with here... they would last a month! T, do you really think just pads would help that much?

 

[TCrazy]

Originally posted by FrostbytetC@Sep 13 2004, 12:11 AM
I would never buy cross drilled rotors... in the weather I contend with here... they would last a month!  T, do you really think just pads would help that much?

yes sir.......rotors dont matter, they are all made from the same thing. The pads however can vary IMMENSLEY in material and stopping power. The stock pads are semi-metallic, which are nice but not the best. The company "EBC" makes an awesome aftermarket pad that is rotor friendly and not to pricey. they have a "green" compound for street use and a "red" compound for race. The difference in breaking is night and day, you wont believe that your stock system can perform like that. Just my past experience with them -t

 

[FrostbytetC]

Good to hear T. I'll look into those. But, I think as far as looks go, some bigger rotors may help a bit... but I'm more concerned with fuction as opposed to looks.

 

[SilverX]

I think rotors are important if you get bigger rims or rims that show the inner wheel area too much. Like the Enkei 18" Rims offered by Scion, as much as I like them I would need slotted brakes to brake off from the fuglyness of the plain rotor. Makes it too puny and plain.

 

[zoltiz]

Those who want cheap but decent slotted rotors can go with Corolla/Matrix Powerslot set - they are usually $150-175 for a pair and work great. I still have my old set that I took off my Matrix before I sold it. Might put them on soon after I paint my calipers (if I ever get to it).

 

[brownbanana]

Originally posted by FrostbytetC@Sep 11 2004, 08:42 PM
Yeah, thanks man... I've seen those pics before. I love the look... but I can honestly say AEM is not a brand I'd trust completely for brakes... maybe for intakes and things of that nature, but not brakes. And plus, I think those are really expensive.

just go search for brake stuff thats for the celica gts 2000-up since you dont like the AEM one. the dude who put those on said it was for that car. i know there a lot..check newcelica.org or something

 

[phammerz]

i read in a magizine that big brake kits, unless specifically designed and tested for a certain car, it could increase the stopping distance rather than help it, but of course you get the nice factor

 

[RSK_Scion.tC]

doesnt Wilwood have a 13" kit?

 

[lo bux racer]

Do you want to stop, or do you want to look stylish? Drilled and slotted look stylish and decrease braking power (more foot effort required and don't shed heat as well). They also crack frequently under heavy use.

If you are really interested in stopping distance improvements, there is only one thing you can change to make a difference: your tires.

 

[J&J FlintC]

Originally posted by lo bux racer@Dec 2 2004, 06:12 PM
Do you want to stop, or do you want to look stylish? Drilled and slotted look stylish and decrease braking power (more foot effort required and don't shed heat as well). They also crack frequently under heavy use.

If you are really interested in stopping distance improvements, there is only one thing you can change to make a difference: your tires.

Only one thing??? what about steel braided lines, better pads, or a slightly larger master cylinder??? there is a lot you can do to improve stock braking performance not all aftermarket kits live up to there billing but some do.

 

[Tchi]

Originally posted by J&J FlintC+Dec 3 2004, 01:48 AM-->QUOTE (J&J FlintC @ Dec 3 2004, 01:48 AM)

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@Dec 2 2004, 06:12 PM
Do you want to stop, or do you want to look stylish?  Drilled and slotted look stylish and decrease braking power (more foot effort required and don't shed heat as well).  They also crack frequently under heavy use.

If you are really interested in stopping distance improvements, there is only one thing you can change to make a difference: your tires.

Only one thing??? what about steel braided lines, better pads, or a slightly larger master cylinder??? there is a lot you can do to improve stock braking performance not all aftermarket kits live up to there billing but some do. [/b]

Thank you.

 

[lo bux racer]

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Only one thing??? what about steel braided lines, better pads, or a slightly larger master cylinder??? there is a lot you can do to improve stock braking performance not all aftermarket kits live up to there billing but some do.[/b]

None of those things will shorten stopping distance. Steel braided lines might make the pedal feel firmer, and will definitely protect your brake lines from off-track events (touring the tulips). Better pads will not reduce stopping distance, they will improve feel at typical racing temperatures. Master cylinder changes only change the feel of the brakes, but they can't possibly change stopping distance. Even 14" rotors don't change stopping distance (but they certainly upset a well calibrated suspension by dramatically increasing unsprung weight).

There is only one thing that will improve your stopping distance: better tires. No matter how you improve your ability to control wheel speed (what a braking system does), it is completely at the mercy of the rubber to road interface. Too much braking force and the ABS kicks in or the wheel locks.

There are only two reasons to put big brakes on a car:

1. You drive on track days and you are cooking your brakes even with ducting installed.

2. You want to look cool by spending a couple-three grand on a brake system that does not change the actual braking performance of your car one whit.

 

[lo bux racer]

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